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Home › News › Does Poker Have a Tournament Reentry Problem?

Does Poker Have a Tournament Reentry Problem?

Written by Jennifer Newell
Last updated on October 23rd, 2019
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The subject of tournament reentries has long been debated in poker, especially in the past few years as they have become more prevalent.

From small tournaments at local casinos to large events in series like the World Poker Tour and World Series of Poker, there are almost always reentries allowed. And late registration for big events has also become the norm.

Several high-profile people in the poker industry have recently brought up the subject again. It might be time to have a larger conversation about it.

Norman Chad: This is a Sham

When the World Series of Poker Europe began on October 13, longtime ESPN poker commentator for the WSOP Norman Chad took a look at the schedule.

He didn’t like what he saw. And he took to Twitter to note that all 15 events were reentries. Moreover, 11 of those tournaments – all bracelet events – offered unlimited reentries. “Somebody has hijacked the World Series of Poker…IN BROAD DAYLIGHT,” he wrote, using the hashtag #ThisIsASham.”

WSOP Europe:
All 15 events are re-entry, and 11 of them are unlimited re-entry.
Somebody has hijacked the World Series of Poker….
….IN BROAD DAYLIGHT.#IAmTakingTheNextAmtrakToRozvadovToPicket #ThisIsASham

— Norman Chad (@NormanChad) October 19, 2019

Chad continued by saying, “This is not poker. This is open up your wallet and try to build a stack, and if you bust, open up your wallet and do it again. And again. And again.”

WSOP Europe:
Every single event is re-entry and most of them are UNLIMITED re-entry.
These are WSOP bracelet events.
This is not poker.
This is open up your wallet and try to build a big stack, and if you bust, open up your wallet and do it again. And again. And again.

— Norman Chad (@NormanChad) October 19, 2019

I mean, you folks can spend weeks arguing about BB Ante & weeks on markup shaming, but where are all the high-minded poker bigwigs leaning out the window & shouting, “I’m mad as hell & I’m not going to take it anymore” when it comes to UNLIMITED re-entry at WSOP bracelet events?

— Norman Chad (@NormanChad) October 19, 2019

He noted that reentries, along with super-late registration periods and publicity tournaments that twist the game to generate interest, are turning poker into a joke.

Tournament poker is becoming a joke – re-buys, re-entries, unlimited re-entries, late late registration, quantum this & quantum that.

At the WSOP Main Event, how ‘bout you just pay $1.3 million & we’ll slip you onto the final table, plus you get a Rio Carnival World buffet comp?

— Norman Chad (@NormanChad) October 19, 2019

Of course, some of the high-stakes pros who have the financial means to fund multiple reentries into each tournament took issue with Chad’s opinion.

Scott Seiver, for example, claimed that reentries are good for casinos and players but bad for the “media-crafted narrative.” Chad responded that reentries keep tournaments from offering a level playing field, as some players can pay for five chances to cash in a tournament while others can only afford one.

There might be a 'media crafted narrative,' but that has nothing to do with my concern, Scott.

It's a question of fairness, a just competition & a level playing field. Under no circumstances should I have, say, five chances to cash while someone else gets only one.

— Norman Chad (@NormanChad) October 20, 2019

Other players seemed to stand up for reentries as well, saying that it builds prize pools higher for lower buy-in events.

But many responded to Chad’s tweet in agreement, saying it is bad for recreational players. Not only do reentries make the tournament feel unfair to those who can only afford one buy-in, they also stretch the tournaments out for additional hours.

Daniel Negreanu: Hurts Recreational Players

One high-stakes pro poker player, one known for reentering when necessary, also tweeted recently about reentries. Daniel Negreanu tweeted an idea for a poker tournament series with no reentries or late registration and only one event per day.

Considering running a poker tournament series with the following highlights:

-One event a day
-No late registration (unless you are in another event)
-No reentry
-NLH and other formats
-Guarantees on all events
-Player of the Series award

— Daniel Negreanu (@RealKidPoker) October 16, 2019

He then responded to a favorable comment from Joey Ingram, “Reentry hurts recreational players absolutely.” Negreanu added, “Makes the end game of tourneys that much tougher and the ratio that much worse for them if they have to bust Fedor (Holz) 5 times to get rid of him.”

Ryan Laplante tweeted in agreement, as did Dan Shak, Ismael Bojang, David Paredes, and Brett Richey.

I’ve never ever liked them Dan. I understand why venues need to offer them, and I play by the rules and take advantage of them when I can, but if it was up to me, prestigious events would go with the old school model.

Show up on time.

Bust and move on.

— Daniel Negreanu (@RealKidPoker) October 17, 2019

Negreanu had far more players arguing with him about late registration than about reentries. Many players argued for some type of late registration, though none responding to his tweet seemed to argue in favor of 10 or 12 levels of late registration.

Flashback to Greg Merson re Ali Imsirovic

The subject of reentries entered the spotlight in February when high-stakes poker pro Ali Imsirovic won a WSOP Circuit event in Las Vegas. It was a $2,200 buy-in, which constitutes a high-roller tournament on the WSOP Circuit.

Imsirovic won, however, after buying in seven times. Former WSOP Main Event champion Greg Merson believed that the incident exemplified the unfairness of reentries.

I love @aliImsirovic but do we not see a problem with RE @WSOP when one of the best players in the world is able to enter 7 times into a single event and ends up winning? Amateur players have no shot at beating the best multiple times in these fields.

— GM (@GregMerson) February 27, 2019

Despite Merson’s status in WSOP history, his opinion seemingly had no impact on WSOP organizers. The 2019 WSOP in Las Vegas had more reentry tournaments than freezeouts on its schedule.

Op-Ed: What Does Poker Want?

The bottom line is that the live tournament poker scene – as a whole – must decide what it wants from players today and moving forward.

If tournament organizers want more rake, bigger prize pools to make their guarantees, and an abundance of high-stakes pros with apparently unlimited bankrolls, they should stick with the trend of reentries. There are definitely benefits for the poker rooms and many professional players with solid bankrolls. This will sustain the tournaments for a while.

However, in order to preserve the basic elements of tournament poker and keep attracting more new players, industry leaders should consider removing some of those reentries.

Tournament poker has always been promoted as a freezeout concept. The one player who outlasts the others wins first place. It may take stamina and patience, a lot of skill and a bit of gamble, but it can be done. And the result is a well-earned victory.

Players who reenter as many times as needed, however, can throw that concept under the bus. Often the winner of a tournament achieved that top position because of one or more reentries. Fatal tournament mistakes weren’t fatal for them because they could afford to reenter.

However, it is rarely documented anymore. Live tournament reporters are not given reentry information. So, when a player busts out and then reappears, it is seen as normal. And when that player wins, there is no official record – outside of the private books kept under wraps at the casino – as to how many times the player reentered in order to earn that win. And there is no record of how much money the player invested to win.

Recreational players often consider reentry tournaments out of their bankroll possibilities and unfair. Speaking as one of those players without a bankroll and who only plays occasionally, I tend to avoid most tournaments that come to my city because I know that other players can take more chances and play a more aggressive game if they know they can just reenter if needed. Since I can’t reenter, I mostly choose not to play at all.

If the overall goal in poker is to attract new players and keep them coming back, it’s probably not a good idea to give them an unfair shake at the tables. It’s also not good to drain their bankrolls so fast that they cannot play anymore.

Reentries may be fun for some and profitable for organizers, but they’re not good for the long-term health of tournament poker.

 

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